Thread: We are mature

Guys, we are more established gamers. We, as Nintendo gamers, should set an example for the more childish Xbox and Playstation fanboys. While, yes, i do despise most "X-bots", and "Dronys" on Youtube (I will not name any,but you probably know them), I am more mature (though i am just 14) than them. We, as Nintendo fans, should be able to debate topics and base them on facts, as well as acknowledge those with opposing opinions. This is why the "Mitt Romney VS Barack Obama" post, as well as several others, should not be removed. Yes, we may ave strong opinions, but we are stronger than that. We should be able to respect each other's opinions. I suppose that specific thread should be closed, but as Nintendo fans, we should not make fun of each other. The Wii U has to have a mature community to converse online (even on games like Call of Duty, which are reknowned for the players that act like they r 5) in a mature manner. I do not mean we should not cuss at all (I do it from time to time), but we should not call each other noobs. Instead, we should help each other out, to not only get better players in the community, but also to make our community fee a bit more challenging. The Wii U seems to be the best console of the next generation, so let's make sure that the online community is the best!

I definitely agree, but with anonymity on the Internet, trolls are always going to exist. It's pointless debating with most of them, even when you're showing sources for your information and opinion(s). I also agree that political and religious debates are great; however most people lack the maturity and tolerance to accept other peoples' opinions and views - it usually ends in flame wars as people cannot handle negativity being said about their own, very personal, beliefs.

Also, it's a little bit naive to consider the Wii U the best console of the upcoming generation when only rumours exist of its competitors.

I suppose it is naive to think so. However, what i meant is that the Wii U makes the most sense to get. this is due to the high probablitiy that the other next gen consoles are probably not that much more powerful, and the Wii U gives the same functionality and more (unless the other next gen consoles use something other than a more advanced dualshock and xbox pad)- due to the fact that it has all the same buttons and analog sticks as those, and the touchscreen and such. And in the games side, the Wii U has the,what to many are, amazing first party games, as well as the third party games (and the third party support is growing really fast). The only games we will probably lose out on are Halo (but we have Conduit and Metroid- if it has online multiplayer), Uncharted (which is like Tomb Raider imo, and Tomb Raider is most probably coming to the Wii U), and Infamous (which, judging by Activision's support, Prototype, which, though not as good, gives a similar enough experienence, andmight come to the console). Yes there are many games we will not be getting. However, I am glad with the games we are getting, and I think this upcoming generation, Nintendo might just shut at least some of those trolls' mouths.

Oh lord, this topic again.

Originally Posted by JoesatMoes

Guys, we are more established gamers. We, as Nintendo gamers, should set an example for the more childish Xbox and Playstation fanboys. While, yes, i do despise most "X-bots", and "Dronys" on Youtube (I will not name any,but you probably know them), I am more mature (though i am just 14) than them.

No, you're really not. You want to set an example? That's fine. Try setting a good one by not starting off your post by looking down on others. Actions always speak louder than words.

Originally Posted by JoesatMoes

We, as Nintendo fans, should be able to debate topics and base them on facts, as well as acknowledge those with opposing opinions. This is why the "Mitt Romney VS Barack Obama" post, as well as several others, should not be removed.

Because the mighty Nintendo master race is clearly better suited for discussing politics than those other filthy commoners~

Seriously, I don't get what that has to do with anything. Whatever fandoms we're a part of are completely irrelevant to that, and while you may not like it the fact that the topic was locked was a preventative measure that can be justified. In the end, you and I really get no say in it anyway. It's the board owner's decision.

Originally Posted by JoesatMoes

Yes, we may ave strong opinions, but we are stronger than that. We should be able to respect each other's opinions. I suppose that specific thread should be closed, but as Nintendo fans, we should not make fun of each other. The Wii U has to have a mature community to converse online (even on games like Call of Duty, which are reknowned for the players that act like they r 5) in a mature manner.

Looking down upon other groups again. You aren't setting a very good example.

Originally Posted by JoesatMoes

I do not mean we should not cuss at all (I do it from time to time), but we should not call each other noobs. Instead, we should help each other out, to not only get better players in the community, but also to make our community fee a bit more challenging. The Wii U seems to be the best console of the next generation, so let's make sure that the online community is the best!

Who said anything about cussing? That's an entirely different matter, and if you think that maturity = vulgarity then that shows your age very clearly.

I get your intentions here. Really, I do. But in the end you're only responsible for yourself, your own actions. If you want the community to be better, then you need to start by acting the way you would want others to act. Be the change you want to make. Because frankly, between the complaining about Youtube trolls, elitist behavior, and general condescending comments toward three seperate fandoms in your original post you aren't leading me to believe you're a very good role model.

The best way to defeat a troll is to just ignore him/her. Trolls thrive on reaction - no reaction, no point of trolling.

Originally Posted by JoesatMoes

Guys, we are more established gamers. We, as Nintendo gamers, should set an example for the more childish Xbox and Playstation fanboys. While, yes, i do despise most "X-bots", and "Dronys" on Youtube (I will not name any,but you probably know them), I am more mature (though i am just 14) than them.

I'd post my "THIS GUY" meme of John the Baptist but it's not ready for the public yet. So I'll just say "lol this guy".

I'm an XBox fanboy y'know. I think the rumors of Fortaleza Glasses on the XBox 720 (Augmented reality glasses that by 2015 will be updated to be a mobile experience as well) are amazing and if true will blow the Wii U out of the water. Augmented reality is a science fiction geek's dream come true. Granted I'd rather have Google's Project Glass if given the option, as I am a big fan of Android, it's still awesome that there's been leaks of these glasses (proof: Xbox leak reveals Kinect 2, augmented reality glasses).

Now that's from 2010 so it might not be true anymore (if it was). But if it is, things are going to easily be more incredibly more interesting.

I dislike "X-bots" and "Dronies" and "Nintendhards" personally. I like reasonable fans who don't think that they're better than fans of other things, though. Fans who enjoy more than one thing. Kind of like how I like Xbox and Nintendo both.

Originally Posted by Colton O'Weekly

I'm an XBox fanboy y'know. I think the rumors of Fortaleza Glasses on the XBox 720 (Augmented reality glasses that by 2015 will be updated to be a mobile experience as well) are amazing and if true will blow the Wii U out of the water. Augmented reality is a science fiction geek's dream come true. Granted I'd rather have Google's Project Glass if given the option, as I am a big fan of Android, it's still awesome that there's been leaks of these glasses (proof: Xbox leak reveals Kinect 2, augmented reality glasses).

I don't think augmented reality is going to blow anyone out of the water no matter who comes out with the best implementation. Sony tried with the EyeToy and it wasn't popular, Nintendo tried it with 3DS and it rarely gets used, Kinect hasn't exactly gotten a huge welcome either. I am sure the Wii U has similar capabilities, I am just not sure how many people will care. It's interesting technology, but just given the track record with augmented reality, I don't see it being mainstream or a system seller.

Originally Posted by Death

Also, it's a little bit naive to consider the Wii U the best console of the upcoming generation when only rumours exist of its competitors.

I'm not sure what you mean by "best". JoesatMoes was a little too harsh and judgmental with some of the stuff he said (and Romney vs Obama definitely does not belong on here unless we're talking about a cage match), but personally I've got to give him this one. Unless the Wii U is a malfunctioning, buggy piece of hardware and the 720/PS4 suddenly have Mario, Zelda, and Metroid as part of their libraries, the Wii U will be the best console. For a lot us, while we like good graphics and whatnot, the games are the big selling point for a system. And Nintendo is one of the best (if not the best) developers on the planet.

Originally Posted by Daemonrunner

I don't think augmented reality is going to blow anyone out of the water no matter who comes out with the best implementation. Sony tried with the EyeToy and it wasn't popular, Nintendo tried it with 3DS and it rarely gets used, Kinect hasn't exactly gotten a huge welcome either. I am sure the Wii U has similar capabilities, I am just not sure how many people will care. It's interesting technology, but just given the track record with augmented reality, I don't see it being mainstream or a system seller.

While Colton and a few others may flock to some virtual reality glasses thingy, most won't, and I personally have no interest in strapping on goggles to play a videogame. And can you imagine if they do make it portable at some point, and people are actually wandering around with these things on? Insane....

But for real!I know no one cares!But I deal with the real stuff when I got to deal with reality!I here about bills,politics,kids,work,money,car trouble,moving,etc....In reality!When I am on here I am a Gamer and a Gamer alone!All the reality crap I am trying to leave at the title screen! #JustSaying ////// The 3DS and 3DTV's makes my eyes hurt.So I am not into the 3D thing!

Originally Posted by the ancient gamer

While Colton and a few others may flock to some virtual reality glasses thingy, most won't, and I personally have no interest in strapping on goggles to play a videogame. And can you imagine if they do make it portable at some point, and people are actually wandering around with these things on? Insane....

Google seems to think that they're the future. I think Google knows a little more than you or me when it comes to selling a product, too.

We'll see though. Regardless, good augmented reality will be the closest to a Holodeck we have. And if it's done right it has so many more applications than gaming (Microsoft is hardly a gaming company first, they just happen to make consoles. They're computers first) so it's likely to sell well I think.

Remember, these aren't goggles. They're just glasses.

As in literally they will look like glasses but the lenses will be transparent screens (if it's like Project Glass from Google that is).

Originally Posted by Amherst

Oh lord, this topic again.



No, you're really not. You want to set an example? That's fine. Try setting a good one by not starting off your post by looking down on others. Actions always speak louder than words.



Because the mighty Nintendo master race is clearly better suited for discussing politics than those other filthy commoners~

Seriously, I don't get what that has to do with anything. Whatever fandoms we're a part of are completely irrelevant to that, and while you may not like it the fact that the topic was locked was a preventative measure that can be justified. In the end, you and I really get no say in it anyway. It's the board owner's decision.



Looking down upon other groups again. You aren't setting a very good example.



Who said anything about cussing? That's an entirely different matter, and if you think that maturity = vulgarity then that shows your age very clearly.

I get your intentions here. Really, I do. But in the end you're only responsible for yourself, your own actions. If you want the community to be better, then you need to start by acting the way you would want others to act. Be the change you want to make. Because frankly, between the complaining about Youtube trolls, elitist behavior, and general condescending comments toward three seperate fandoms in your original post you aren't leading me to believe you're a very good role model.

what i mean is, the Wii U online community is new. XBL and, to some extent, PSN, is known for very bad communities, with ppl calling eachother "noobs", "tryhards", calling each other names, and such. They are known to be communities of ppl who act like they r 5. i do not want that with the Wii U community. Whan i said that thing about Romney VS Obama, i meant we should be able to discus the pros and cons about each option, and respect eachothers opinions, and was using that as an example (becuz ther was a thread on Romney VS Obama, and ppl said to close it just cuz it might becom a flamewar). I do not want ppl in our community to go like, "Obama sucks", rather than "I would rather I have Romney because blahblahblah". I know ther will be some childish ppl in the community- but i want ther to limit the amount of them. I respect Sony and MS- they have good consoles- but many ppl in their communities act quite childish from my experience. I want even for the young 5 year olds in the community to act smart rather than using racist,sexist, and homophobic language like the PSN and XBL communities are known for.

The only time the presidential candidates should be mentioned on the wiiuforums is if Mitt Romney or Barack Obama suddenly started talking about Nintendo. (Remember when Hermain Cain quoted Pokemon? Love that guy lol)

Originally Posted by Colton O'Weekly

Google seems to think that they're the future. I think Google knows a little more than you or me when it comes to selling a product, too.

We'll see though. Regardless, good augmented reality will be the closest to a Holodeck we have. And if it's done right it has so many more applications than gaming (Microsoft is hardly a gaming company first, they just happen to make consoles. They're computers first) so it's likely to sell well I think.

Remember, these aren't goggles. They're just glasses.

As in literally they will look like glasses but the lenses will be transparent screens (if it's like Project Glass from Google that is).

But now you are taking it out of the context of gaming.

The Wii U is a gaming console with some cool entertainment features as an added bonus. Microsoft is trying to take the "everything" approach to Xbox and seems to be making it more of a PC than a console - and they are catching a lot of flak for becoming less gamer-centric as well. Sure, this feature may "blow the Wii U out of the water" in terms of some kind of extra feature to the system, but in gaming terms, not so much. I don't think any of the next systems will blow anyone out of the water in the gaming realm - the Wii U has an upper hand in my book because of the Gamepad, but I think the next generation is going to be a fairly even match. It will come down to which console provides the best exclusive gaming content - I feel that's going to be a battle between Sony and Nintendo and not so much Microsoft.

Just to be clear, I am not an Xbox hater. I have the least preference to Xbox because I had a gaming PC for such a long time that it was made obsolete. A majority of their exclusives ended up hitting the PC, so it made it kind of null and void in my home. Now I no longer have my gaming PC, but the system still lacks any exclusives I have interest in, so my PS3 and the Wii are the primary systems in my home. I don't really own too many multi-platform titles, but the Wii U is going to become my go-to system for those - unless there is something seriously wrong with the Wii U version due to bad programming or something.

Originally Posted by JoesatMoes

what i mean is, the Wii U online community is new. XBL and, to some extent, PSN, is known for very bad communities, with ppl calling eachother "noobs", "tryhards", calling each other names, and such. They are known to be communities of ppl who act like they r 5. i do not want that with the Wii U community. Whan i said that thing about Romney VS Obama, i meant we should be able to discus the pros and cons about each option, and respect eachothers opinions, and was using that as an example (becuz ther was a thread on Romney VS Obama, and ppl said to close it just cuz it might becom a flamewar). I do not want ppl in our community to go like, "Obama sucks", rather than "I would rather I have Romney because blahblahblah". I know ther will be some childish ppl in the community- but i want ther to limit the amount of them. I respect Sony and MS- they have good consoles- but many ppl in their communities act quite childish from my experience. I want even for the young 5 year olds in the community to act smart rather than using racist,sexist, and homophobic language like the PSN and XBL communities are known for.

I get what you're saying and agree with the just of it, but don't be surprised if the Wii U takes off, and its online experience becomes more like what you see on the Xbox--both good and bad.

Originally Posted by the ancient gamer

I get what you're saying and agree with the just of it, but don't be surprised if the Wii U takes off, and its online experience becomes more like what you see on the Xbox--both good and bad.

Yeah, I think that is always going to exist. The Miiverse forum threads are going to have software-based moderation that should help to a certain extent - which I have mixed feelings about (threads of M-rated games should be a little more open than threads of E-rated games) - but there are always going to be elitists, trolls, and haters on the web. It will be up to the community to try to promote good community practice. I am sure that the software moderation will be looking for specific words - but there is almost ALWAYS a way around those words in some fashion. Plus, I highly doubt the software moderation will be as effective with the whole sketching ability. The best thing to lead by example. In cases where software-based moderation fails, there is also peer moderation and should be utilized. If something is offensive, it should be flagged. There really isn't anything one can do with in-game voice chat except mute offensive players.

I totally agree with you, I'm only fifteen, yet i see people twice my age acting like 5 year olds, it makes me sad that people aren't mature enough to respect other people opinions