Last edited by Billy Mitchell; 10-30-2012 at 05:13 PM.
So,em.......how the hell did this happen!!
Star Wars already went downhill with ep 1 so im not particularly worried.
They'll eventually just buy the whole world...
I read about this on Yahoo. Is this good?
Personally I hate how Disney is taking over all these companies. The end up taking all of Pixar's credit, and now this.
I don't know if anyof you have heard but Disney is buying Lucasfilm. Do u think this is good or bad? I thought when they bought Marvel it was going to be dumbed down but nothing has changed. So may be it will work out. Oh yeah one more thing they've decided to make more Star Wars movies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WOW is right! I didn't even know this was in the works! As for releasing further Star Wars films and an Episode 7, there is quite a bit of literature that they can draw from but there must be someone put in charge of them, both in a creative capacity and with regards to good direction to ensure they don't continue the trend started by the prequel trilogy. So excited and dismayed a bit!
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What I'm interested in seeing is how they're going to do the characters that we all know and love. Luke, Han, and Lea will all be in it, and they sure as fire aren't going to use the old actors.
At first I was kind of upset about it, but after reading all the details, I'm pretty stoked. They also own the Indiana Jones rights now, too. I wonder if they'll try to carry it on with Shia Labeouf.
I love how people are bitching online saying Disney will RUIN sw. PLEASE! If they can produce something worse than the prequels and worse than the crappy 3D clone wars cartoon, I'd love to see it.
People thought the same thing when Disney bought Marvel. They thought they'd "kiddy" it up. Turns out the movies are better than they ever were with Stan Lee AND the comic industry is alive again, instead of circling the drain.
And financially? This is the BEST move for Disney. Their parks are SUFFERING. HORRIBLY. Look what Harry Potter did for Universal Parks? And Harry hasn't even proved to be anywhere near as popular as Star Wars (or have the legs.. time will tell). A Star Wars park... an Indiana Jones park... Tron... the options are endless. For once they'd have parks that would not only attract parents and 3-8 year olds. They'd attract everyone.
Movies? Marvel films are already some of the best movies to come out each year. Star Wars films every 2-3 years? Made by the same people who did the Avengers/Thor/Capt America? BRING IT!
Merchandise? Disney will rake it in. They'll do more with it than Lucas has been doing at least. Look at toy store shelves. Marvel toys are everywhere. The star wars toys are becoming stagnant. Not much new has been released recently.
And here's another point people forget. They own it all. Industrial Light and Magic, Lucasarts? Theirs. They now have a hand in nearly every film (for sound or special effects), and now have a group in the video game industry that can help them lead them to success there where companies like Blackrock Studios (who made Pure) did not.
This could help Disney in SO many areas, and more importantly help the SW franchise as a whole. There is absolutely no down side to this, and I welcome Disney to bring it on. Make Star Wars what it used to be. Make it like the new Marvel movies... no kiddie crap like with Jar Jar, and make the franchise shine once more.
2-3 more years of Star Wars?
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Disney Sucks. They make good games and the orginal Walt is cool, and Pixar is great. But everything else sucks. They ruined Marvel and if they even touch Star Wars.... There will be hell to pay!
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Hope it wont be so KID-I-FIED! lol!
Better not be singing in my Star Wars!
I understand Disney is good at what they do, but seriously dont go out buying every single valuable company.
You are big as you are as a company!
Last edited by Nintyfan; 10-30-2012 at 09:21 PM.
I looked it up and read the article. It said that Lucas shall be the creative consultant for the new movies, so hopefully not much will change. I think that they will continue to air "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" animated series until Season 5 ends. After Season 5, they will probly end it or move the series over to Disney Channel or something.
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Did you guys not read my post? It won't be kiddied up. And they did not ruin Marvel. How did they ruin Marvel? The made the movies better and revitalized the comic scene. Please.
Disney has shown that they aren't going to rape a franchise. They aren't stupid.
Star Wars is for manly men and should stay that way. Or else!
Now, if we want to talk about Marvel being ruined, we could discuss how they completely pussied out of all of the changes brought about by the Civil War storyline, Peter Parker dieing only to be replaced by a new character very few people actually like (though if the "magic time bullet" nonsense that brought Cap back is any indication, they'll bring him back regardless of if it actually makes sense or not), every single Venom being progressively worse than the last since Eddie Brock. Not even gonna get into my problems with X-Men, that'd take all day.
Still though, that's entirely on Marvel. Disney has done nothing but help the company really.
Last edited by Amherst; 10-31-2012 at 10:52 AM.
People love to hate. It's amazing how some people here who I know must be used to getting such blind, unreasonable hate being Nintendo fans, are so quick to speak the same way towards a company that doesn't deserve it either.
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Again, I'll eat my words if Harry Potter lasts that long, and doesn't fizzle out, but I'd honestly be quite surprised.
To each their own.
I gotta say that after some reflection I wonder why Disney went after Lucasfilm before retaining rights to more directly relevant properties such as X-Men and Fantastic Four. My reasoning for this is with the current direction they are taking with regards to The Avengers and specifically Thanos, not having rights for Silver Surfer, Fantastic Four (one of Thanos's biggest enemies), questionable rights to Galactus, and the X-Men leaves a lot of money on the table to be made. And I really think the X-Men are important because they play roles in nearly every one of the other franchises. -Nuff said
The way the contracts are structured with those properties, the other studios own the rights as long as they keep making the movies, and those studios don't want to give them up. That's why Spider-Man was re-booted so soon after the third one. Basically, even Disney doesn't have enough money to buy back FF and X-Men, they just have to wait for the other studios to screw up. Fox might be doing that with FF right now, that planned re-boot is having all sorts of problems getting off the ground. The thing that confuses me about the Star Wars deal is Episode 7 in 2015. Doesn't seem possible. Lucas has said for a long time that he would never make another trilogy, so unless they've been planning it in secret, I don't know how they would even have a script! 2015 release date would mean they'd have to start shooting the thing really soon.
I think I am more surprised that it sold for so...ugh little? I dunno, it seems like 4 billion is chump change with companies as successful as Lucasfilms and Disney.
They want a franchise that they can use not only for movies, but for their parks. A franchise that would appeal to everyone, and make people not only come back to their parks (all ages, young and old), but CONSTANTLY come back. If they are making new films every 2-3 years now, they will have a never ending supply of content to work from to make rides based on it.
Then again I am just a rabid Marvel fanboy...
Last edited by Darth Praxis; 10-31-2012 at 10:42 AM.
Again... just my opinion.
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Just to see X-Wings and Tie Fighters again, and Stormtroopers and Rebels on the silver screen instead of Jar Jar and Boss Nass, and Naboo Starfighters and droid starships will make me happy.
The main problem I also had with the prequels had nothing to do with quality/actors. It was the simple fact it was about droids vs clones. IE: You had no emotional attachment to either side what so ever. The reason why IV is still powerful today, and why I still get a nervous pit in my stomach during the trench run, is because despite the fact you only see them for a handful of minutes, Star Wars movies (the old ones) tend to really make you feel like you kinda know the pilots because their personalities are so unique. When they die in a battle, it brings a much more urgent sense of danger than when another faceless clone dies in a crossfire of 8 billion identical clones.
From a video game standpoint, I don't think Harry Potter is nearly as popular either. I can't think of a single GREAT Harry Potter game. Star Wars has give us the Battlefront series, the Rogue Squadron series, Xwing VS Tie Fighter, Knights of the old Republic, and even Episode I Podracer was better than any HP game I've played.
And quite honestly, from a book standpoint, I think it's also unfair to forget about Star Wars. Many people tend to only think of them in the theater, but SW has a HUGE book presence. There are literally dozens upon dozens of books spanning from the stories of the films themselves, to stories about what happens in between the movies (Rogue Squadron series of books as well as Shadows of the Empire, which was a HUGE novel), to the expanded universe after episode 6. Many of these books have gone on to sell extremely well, and the SW book scene is still booming.
I'm not discrediting Harry Potter. For anyone to make a book series as popular as that, none the less create a line of tie-in films, well.. it's very impressive. From a popularity standpoint though, if you look at how much each of these franchises have effected generations, industries outside of their original state (video games, film, novels, toys etc), and impact on history, I just dont think they are really on the same league. There's not a single catagorie in media I can think of where Harry Potter COMPLETELY outclasses Star Wars.
I'll say this. I don't think there's much out there besides Harry Potter that could compete with Star Wars on a popularity level. But the SW universe is so big, and so special to so many people, that I just don't ever see it dieing off in popularity. And even when the creator has washed his hands of it, we are now seeing it continue on and on and on.
My main concern with Harry Potter is.... now what? She completed her book series. The kid can only be a kid for so long. Star Wars wasn't called "The Adventures of Luke Skywalker", or else the moves would be finished and it would be hard to expand on it. It will be hard to expand on a new story line, if another author picks it up in the future, when the series is named after the kid it's about.
Last edited by ceramicsaturn; 10-31-2012 at 11:23 AM.
First point I want to make is the books. If you combine all of the Star Wars books they still wouldnt equal nearly as many books sold as Harry Potter books. They are just not as good (according to the majority). Yes, some may like Star Wars books more, but they are in the minority.
2nd point: I believe you may be underestimating the Harry Potter Fanbase. They have actual college classes and universities (as small as they are) and subjects taken from Harry Potter. There are beginning to be professional Quidditch teams. (Star Wars never invented a sport). Again, Wizarding World is bigger than you think (I am dying to go).
3rd. You say Star Wars is expandable. How long do you think they could drag out an old-A Luke and Hans story line before they have to figure up new characters for sequels? Harry Potter is the same. Whoever makes a spin-off could easily tie in characters from the original books. Not to mention how great a prequel would be. If you have read the books (and I dont know if you have) but the story line is deep and very possible to expand upon. A very large majority of the hardcore Harry Potter fans want more books.
And 4th. You say Star Wars is so big and so special to so many people... and it is. It is DEFINITELY historical and amazing. But do you think the next generation of kids is going to be more prone to watch Harry Potter which is much newer or Star Wars from the 70's? Star Wars is more special to more adults from that generation. Harry Potter is probably more special to a younger generation who has not had as much of a chance yet. Fortunately, I am in a generation where I can appreciate both.
I cannot really contribute to the video game category as I am not interested in either types of games and I have already addressed the movies.
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I'm a big fan too. Yeah, that's the thing with Fox--if they continue making these movies and do it right, they can rake in a lot of cash for a really, really long time. It would be nice to see them go to Disney, because then Marvel would have total control over them and we wouldn't have to endure stuff like the Tim Story FF movies, but that's not going to happen. Hopefully the new FF movies will be better than the first two (although I didn't hate the first two like most fans did). There have been talks between Fox, Sony, and Marvel about sharing elements/characters, hopefully that will happen some day.
Estimates for profit on Ep VII say about 1.5 billion dollars. If that's true, it's still weird to me Lucas would give the whole thing up for a mere 4 billion. True, 4 billion is a TON of cash, but for Star Wars, Lucasarts, Indiana Jones, and everything else... just seems a tad bit too low.
Then again, what are you going to do with 4000 million dollars? haha
Well he is Lucasfilm in a lot of ways. He probably wanted to sell it to somebody so he didn't have to worry about day to day stuff anymore, and trusted Disney the most. He'll probably get a nice salary for the rest of his life. 4 billion does seem a bit low, however.
Well I fancy myself a writer and I love being inspired and few things truly inspire me like Star Wars. Harry Potter is alright but it does not compare to the feeling that arouses when a character turns on a lightsaber. I know I am not the only one who feels this way. That is why Star Wars will be around for a long time and Harry Potter will eventually be forgotten.
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This is actually a good thing. George Lucas and Disney have been doing business for years. Indiana Jones and Star Wars have been in the parks for a very long time. Every May, Disney does Star Wars weekends. It's a pretty big deal. The actors from the movies come by and sign autographs, the Jedi Academy and Star Tours with a life sized At-At.
And after seeing this...I really don't think Darth Vader minds too much.