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    Will we see any rip-offs of the wii u gamepad controller from sony and microsoft

    They did it with the wii motion control, I was just wondering what other people thought



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    Yes, unless the Wii U flops. Microsoft and Sony are evolutionary company's, they rarely go out on a limb and create something new and untested. Heck, Sony has decided to copy Super Smash Bros. The Sony Move is a complete copy of the Wii Controller setup. At least the Kinect works totally differently, and is a unique take on motion gaming.

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    I think SmartGlass and PS Vita Crossplay are their pathetic attemps at a copy of the GamePad. Kinect is unique but not very fun. I think Kinect 2 will be fun though. I have no idea what Sony could be thinking up (or stealing from other companies) right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britton View Post
    I think SmartGlass and PS Vita Crossplay are their pathetic attemps at a copy of the GamePad. Kinect is unique but not very fun. I think Kinect 2 will be fun though. I have no idea what Sony could be thinking up (or stealing from other companies) right now.
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    Agreed. Sony and Microsoft can be innovative. But when they are, it doesn't seem that the idea was fully fleshed out before they decided to package it, market it, and sell it. The Kinect and PS Eye come to mind in that regard.

    Personally? I don't think the Kinect 2 will be fun at all. And I don't think it will sell well, either. Even if you get rid of the horrible latency that Kinect has, and you improve it's accuracy, you're still left with a Kinect. A device in which you need to hop around like an idiot to play in most games. An accessory that makes the lack of sensory input on the Wii Remote seem like a god send, as at least with that you're holding something.

    And don't even get me started about the space issue with the Kinect. I have a huge media room, and no coffee table. I pushed my sofa back as far as it would go without completely blocking the way out of the room, and I still had to stand legs against the sofa's front in order for the Kinect to recognize me. And no, the Zoom thing does not work. All hand motions become completely garbled with that thing. That was a waste of money.

    And last but not least, I play video games not to exercise. Not to "get off my lazy ass". But to sit down after a hard day's work, or on the weekend after a long work week, and RELAX. It's a fault I had with the Wii's early days before games used less motion controls, and it's a huge problem I have with the Kinect as most games require you to stand to play.

    Not only do I applaud Nintendo's choice in going back to a more traditional controller, but I also think motion is dead. You don't exactly see Move controllers, Wii systems, or even Kinects fly off the shelf anymore. Microsoft's choice to continue with it seems short sited. For goodness sake, the Kinect is now sold at Big Lots. That's pretty much the signal that you are done for, product wise.


    As far as copying? You bet they will. And they already have. Like said, the smartglass thing is the first step. It's their way of judging wether or not people like that sort of thing on the 360, so that by the time the 720 comes out, they will know wether or not to add a screen to their controllers. I personally think the smartglass thing though is silly as there are no buttons on tablets and phones to play games. Sure you can have it on your lap, but that's what makes the gamepad so great. It's all inclusive, and all in one.

    Lastly, latency will be horrid between a tablet and a 360. It will run through wifi like the Vita does with the PS3, and we all know how "fast" that is.

    It's funny. Everyone always thinks Nintendo will go out of business all the time because they're the "weird" company. The company that takes risks. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. But if you went in a time machine and asked yourself in 2005 if you thought Sony would be at a point where a PS4 might not be financially possible, you'd laugh your ass off. When you don't innovate, and when you release half-baked products to costumers, you won't last long. And Nintendo does that in spades.
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    Yeah, I agree, I don't own a kinect but i have heard they are very unresponsive

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    I don't think SmartGlass is a rip-off of the Wii U - I think it's seeing what all the big TV stations are doing and saying, "Gee, I want in on that!"

    AMC, HBO, multiple other networks that I'm too lazy to get the names of - they're all moving to the "Two screen experience". Anytime you watch a new episode of the Walking Dead AMC reminds you to go to a website on your laptop or tablet or smartphone to enjoy it with dual screens going at once.

    Xbox SmartGlass is more of an answer to that than to the Wii U GamePad I think. And it's, in general, where the entire industry is headed. It's a trend like 3D is. A few people started it, others took it and advanced it a bit more. You have the idea of HBO GO or whatever as a companion app for your shows on HBO first.

    But here's the thing with SmartGlass all the same: It's not a controller. It could be, if the developer wanted that. But it's primarily being marketed as a companion app. Microsoft is basing it off the television industry's move into two-screen viewing, it wants to have everything synced together and work together constantly.

    Right now, the holy grail of entertainment is to make something that can be accessed on every device you have easily, with constant syncing between all of them. Nintendo's seeing that and somewhat moving in by allowing Miiverse to be accessed on things other than the Wii U. But Microsoft is embracing it head-on.

    Right now Google and Apple are closer to that than anyone else. Apple has Apple TV and iPhone and iPad and iPod and Macs and lots of other things, that they want to be able to constantly sync. Google has the Android system and the Chrome browser, which are in phones, tablets, computers, and TVs now. Microsoft is trying to through SmartGlass in to compete against these guys by letting you do all your Microsoft things on everything. Your Windows Phone, your Windows Tablet, your Windows computer, and your XBox. The only reason they haven't released a Windows TV is because the XBox 360 can do all the stuff for that now.


    That being said, not many things are blatant rip-offs. If you want to call anyone using motion control as being a rip-off then the Wii was clearly a rip-off of the EyeToy that Sony had back in 2003. But of course no one says that - the Wii worked and is remembered for popularizing motion control, always will be remembered for "that weird fad the 2000s had" by our ancestors (unless it pulls a 3D and comes back working much better). So what makes the Kinect a rip-off of the Wii in any way? That you control it by moving? See, that's not a rip-off. That's competing. With a different style.

    The PS Move is more of a rip-off, but as I've never used it I can't say any main differences.


    Will there be products there to compete more directly with the GamePad? Maybe, maybe not. If the GamePad makes good money and sales for Nintendo, certainly. It's to be expected that companies try to maximize profits and there's absolutely nothing wrong with them seeing what works for another company, and using similar ideas.

    Besides, Nintendo didn't invent tablets or gaming on tablets. Making another console with a tablet screen to control it will hardly be a rip-off. It'll just be what the markets always do, and what Nintendo is guilty of too. Nintendo saw video games becoming popular and jumped on, after all. It is playing catch-up with HD, after all.

    Doesn't mean Nintendo is a worse company, just that Sony and Microsoft aren't doing anything Nintendo wouldn't do. If Microsoft's Fortazela Glasses are a major, unprecedented success (or, if they aren't, let's say Google's Project Glass is a big success) and Nintendo just ignores the idea of gaming headsets it'd be a bad business move. I'd fully expect Nintendo to make its own augmented reality glasses to compete with them, because that's how companies work.

    After all, imagine if someone had got a patent on "The concept of playing electronic games on a digital screen with an analogue controller". AKA: the concept of video games. We'd have one company doing all the video game business. There'd be no competition, no innovation.

    The only reason there is innovation in the big three is because if one of them doesn't innovate, they get left behind. Nintendo almost got left behind in graphics and power, which was risky enough for it. Now it's trying to do what the other two did last generation and be different, which is great but also risky in that it might not make as much of a profit as it would have otherwise.

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    Who would have thought the Wii would be the phenom that it became. Motion gaming isnt dead, but it doesnt need to be the primary focus either. The Wii's primary controller was motion based, and games included motion controls in some pathetic ways at times. The Wii Remote and Chuk setup is still there with the Wii U, but its not the primary controller setup. So for games like Wii Sports where motion controls work well, its still there, and already has a huge install base thanks to the Wii. The majority of games are better suited for the gamepad, and that will be the primary controller setup on Wii U. Nintendo has created the best of both worlds. They were smart to stick with their tried and true motion controls. No need to try and sell consumers on something new, when their existing setup meets the demand for motion gaming just fine.
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    i guarantee you that the nextbox and orbis will have a touch screen gamepad....it opens up so many possibilities...Dreamcast was ahead of their time with their VMU...Sega would have had this already if they didnt almost go under
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    We have to wait and see!

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    Vita has already, hmmm.... we'll just have to see what Microsoft comes up with besides Smartglass

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    The thing about the GamePad is that it has all the features of an Xbox or PS3 controller, as well as the touchscreen. I think it could go 2 ways whether Sony or Microsoft copy

    1) Sony and Microsoft think, " well, our controller has been good enough and it is what fans are used to". They could also say that PSVita Crossplay and SmartGlass were ways that their consoles could do what the GamePad can, and do not think they need to make a copy of it- especially when it would look like an obvious rip-off, and they know the reaction would be like the one when PSASBR was announced, and that fans cannot get it without being hypocrites when they said the Wii U GamePad is 'gimiky'.

    2) Sony and/or Microsoft see that, since the GamePad can do everything their controllers can, and more, they think "hmmm, it has extra features, so multiplats may be better on it. Why not make something like it, so that our systems have the same features, AND they will be more powerful" (let's face it, no matter how much, their systems will most likely be mor powerful than the Wii U- though probably just barely). They only thing that players would lose out on is Nintendo games, which many Xbox and PS fans find "childish"

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